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  • WeShallOvercome
    07-10 12:41 PM
    I got my canadian PR early this year and have another 3 months to land. I think other companies will follow MSFT and there will be a lot of consulting companies to support them as well. Some more avenues for Desi companies to exploit employees but I guess since we don't need to depend on employers to get our PR, they may not have their way the way they do here in the US.





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  • vine93
    09-23 05:12 PM
    Nixtor,

    This idea makes much sense and I am for it.
    Only hitch is how fruitful it would be launching it now. Why not to wait for next season ( Probably Democrats ).





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  • unitednations
    02-18 05:41 PM
    I agree that his arguments are valuable...

    And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
    You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....

    That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....

    I don't look at it as a shoot out or trying to pick on people and say the situation is hopeless.

    I have a lot of postings on immigration.com and I can tell you definitively that the conversations on this portal are much more constructive and educated. On the other portal there are people who still think it is a conspiracy of holding back visas and government wants people out. No matter how much one talks about the law and visa allocations they do not look at the facts but rather wallow in self misery and conspiracy theories.

    There are others who don't pay much attention to immigration matters and belive the rhetoric that a law change is around the corner and it will increase the vsias by a substantial amount. In my opinion from everything I know; regarding allocation of visas; number of pending cases at backlog centers; number of perm approvals; number of people here on h-1b; O visas, L-1' university H-1b's; the wait could be minimum ten years for people from severely retrogressed countries. Until people can understand this; and I am afriad that the only way people will understand this is if USCIS/DOS issued exact statistics of how many I-140's there are where 485's haven't been filed; how many 485's are pending which can't be approved; how quickly they process eb2 row and eb3 row cases and how frequently they come into the pipeline then an educated guess cannot be made with any great precision. However, everything I know would say that everyone from india in eb3 and eb2 should just stop watching the visa bulletin because at the current pace and law; it would take five years to just approve one year of greencards which happened in 2005 and even then the dates were back to 2002. Since January 2005 there hasn't been any eb3 approvals from India with priority dates after June 2002. You can just imagine how big the numbers are. There was over 50,000 H-1b visas issued in 2005 (can't tell which were intial h-1b's or just revalidation); 20,000 H-4's; 20,000 L-1's, 20,000 f-1s; 200,000 visitor visas. That was all just in one year. When there is only going to be 10,800 greencards compared to these numbers it becomes mind boggling.

    Regarding arguments and counter arguments. When one does a presentation or getting ready for a presentation you always need to understand the other side of the argument. If you don't then you cannot counter it and will lose credibility. So some of the things I have pointed out need to be countered/mitigated to have any reasonable chance of success. For example the 485 filing without priority date; how many people knew that a person on visitor visa could file a 485; people from family base who are illegally here would be able to flip over to EB and come into this stream; people on L-1; f-1, etc. The numbers would be so huge that without quota change, etc. it would be a disaster. If the plan was to first ask for this and then six months later say; hey look now we have 2 million people going for greencard and you should increase the quota now; it might fall on deaf ears for many years.

    Just in case you want to ask; I don't have good answers; there will be much more arguments to use about not attracting/retaining once all of EB retrogresses. The scientists; executives on L-1 from companies like Citibank; hsbc, etc also get retrogressed then you will hear much more noise.

    Within immigration there is competing interests. You have political asylee issue where there was a cap of 10,000 annually even though there are hundreds of thousands of people waiting for it. It took them many, many years to lift the cap. there are 12 million undocumented workers who could pose a security risk if you listen to all the security pundits; there are EB3 skilled workers who cannot get into the country because they don't quality for h-1 and have to wait outside; there are teenagers; young adults who came with their undocumented parents who are trying to legalize, etc. Phillipinos who are sponsoring their siblings have to wait for 23 years.

    In EB we are one of the few who hold non immigrant visas that allow us to get a greencard while we are in USA. Just about all the other categories of non immigrant visas require a person to stay out of usa until they get the greencard. As I said in a previous posting; I firmly believe that EB is the least disadvantaged of the various routes to get permanent residency.





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  • WeldonSprings
    09-15 02:16 PM
    Here is what I researched and found out-

    From the data for India

    For Permanent applications 2004 => Reduction in Recruitment (EB2 cases)

    From 1 April 1004 to 16 August 2004 => 430 appox(All countries)

    No data from 17 August 2004 to 28 February 2005.

    From 01 March 2005 to 30 September 2005, For Level III- 263 For Level IV-271
    = 500 approx.

    For 01 October 2005 to March 2006, For Level III- 2500, Level IV-1770
    = 4300 approx.

    Now, of the GCs approved last Aug.08 and Sept.08 were from the Texas Service Center.

    That meant Atlanta Processing Center was the Labor Approval Center.

    So, For 01 October 2005 to March 2006
    For Level III- 1100, Level IV-770.

    So, total left = (2500-1100) + (1770-770) = 1400 + 1100= 2500

    Therefore toatl from 01 April 2004 to Mar. 2006=>

    430(2004) + 400(mystery number from 16 Aug. 04 to 01 March 2005) + 500(2005) +2500(2006)= 3900 principal applicants.

    Multiply by 2 for dependents = 7800 EB2 India pending before Mar. 06.

    Please comment on my analysis or feel free to ask questions.



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  • abhijitp
    02-13 01:23 AM
    Per country limit applies to every country in exactly the same way. It doesn't discriminate between Chad or China. So, how is it discrimination? And think about it- in Olympics soccer/basketball every country can send only one team. Should China and India be allowed to send more teams since they have a larger population? We should try to increase the number of GCs.

    Do not evade the question, is it okay to limit the number of gold medals per country to 7% of all? Talk about athletics or swimming, not soccer. Do you believe there are "too many" swimmers from Australia or the USA in every Olympics? It just does not seem right... the quota system kills competitive spirit.

    As Logiclife said in his post, EB GC inherited country caps from Family Based GC program. They are inappropriate in an EB GC scenario, and should be removed, that's it!





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  • deepakjain
    01-22 04:26 PM
    Then please pack your bags and leave the country in the next flight..

    Good Answer, it is easier said then done. Anyone who has been working here without any issues at work place why should he/she leave because of delay in getting GC. Yes we definitely have an uncertain future but that should not stop people like us for staying here, buying house, cars and living a decent life here in US.

    Getting a GC is part of my employment process for staying here for a longer duration without any visa hassles, this should not stop atleast any Indian to live life to the fullest here in US.



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  • EndlessWait
    07-10 11:36 AM
    bbye monseiur!





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  • panini
    05-18 07:59 PM
    Illusions, Thanks Bro!!

    Marphad, I have posted less than 20 posts in this forum and I have never posted anything anti-immigrant. The most number of posts I have ever posted was in this thread.

    And that was because I saw some people posting misleading information about the Sri Lankan war and I wanted everyone to see at least what I consider to be the real situation. I can't help it if people have trouble listening to different opinions and different sides of the story but this is a public forum and I have the freedom to post what I feel as long as I don't cross the line.

    In any case, I am too happy today to be wasting my time on petty stuff like these.

    Hasta la vista Baby!!!! :D

    Marphad, i didn't say that it's wrong or right, you implied he is anti immigrant, spreading rumors and writing un-necessary posts, i just failed to see how you concluded all that just by looking at his profile ? And point taken after you replied.

    And isn't the content in his profile all default content (correct me if i'm wrong) when the tracker was introduced, even i had a changeability as US. And i'm not trying to defend him, but you seem to assume it's fake. And the way i see it, it is incomplete.

    If one has a fake profile do you really think he will make it so obvious ? it would resemble more accurate data than the most obvious.

    And i do know the profile carries on to a on-related immi thread, no doubts there, except it only makes sense looking and analyzing it when related to an immi issue, unless you are looking for something else.



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  • acecupid
    07-17 12:03 PM
    Is it accurate to say that new way of allocating spill over visas effectively acheive same effect as eliminiating country limits?

    I suppose the new way of allocation has similar effect to eliminating country limits within a category i.e. EB1 or EB2 or EB3 but not across the board





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  • delhiguy
    01-05 04:50 PM
    Moderators , Pls delete this thread. Why is the thread posted on a immigration forum. :mad:



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  • Macaca
    07-04 10:28 AM
    The following from IV's press release is incorrect. The max # is 3,185

    The group's website has reported a record hit of 2,500 concurrent users since this morning.





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  • sc3
    09-23 04:44 PM
    One thing, assume if it works out and 50% of the people are able to buy houses and get the GC, they are out of the queue right, so automatically the back logs are gone and the remaining people not able to buy the house will get their GCs soon.

    You are missing the point of the opposition. What is the fairness in this visa category? Every other category has US benefiting (not short term, but in long term) from us, except this proposed category. Do you think paying 20% down will benefit US enough that they drop every thing and grant you the GC??

    Also, how do you define this 20%? A 20% down in CA will get your 5 homes in Alaskan tundra (ok exaggerating, but not by much). This proposal basically comes down to haves and have nots. By expending time on such misguided legislation, you are not only making the immigrants look like cheap opportunistic ****, but also giving enough fodder for the anti-immigrants that we are only looking for our GC without any tangible long term benefit for US (I could pay 20% down, get my GC, and then become a burden on the state).



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  • jkays94
    07-11 10:25 PM
    jazz and others did u give ur ielts..if so where???

    is it reqd ?

    can i submit a 8 yr old copy of my toefl instead?

    You may want to write an english proficiency letter detailing the four aspects that they seek, ie reading, speaking, writing and listening.





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 03:16 PM
    Calm down Girl. relax. atleast you called me your friend. freinds dont fight. just take it easy and relax. take a nap, you will feel better.

    Sorry if i said some thing wrong.

    Your friend

    MC
    Mr Michael chertoff - do you know what happens when you act fresh with a gal.
    You either get a slap or a kiss. I have not made up my mind about either way but you need to keep on your toes

    You know i think i can see you as a friend (And no i donot need your support in becoming an EB3 representative gosh gc_dreams needsa smoke or coffe or something) and as a friend i will say something

    Please do not patronize me by asking me to take a nap.

    Other than that you are one person on this forum who lets just say has my respect



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 12:57 PM
    why doesn't anyone in iv core get it dammit..... this is crystal clear..... what more do u want...... now get mov'in & get green cards for all of us by next week..... :rolleyes:
    why doesn't anyone in iv core get it dammit..... this is crystal clear..... what more do u want...... now get mov'in & get green cards for all of us by next week.....


    For a second after seeing your statement i thought some is getting what i am saying but the smile at the very end destroyed that illusion
    But in any case whether you agree with me or not (or whether as some say i am in cloud cooko land- to which all i can say is i woke up when will you) i appreciate a reply to the post





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  • neil.0505
    08-07 11:53 AM
    Details:

    *Company A has filled for my H1B Cancellation on June 20 but have visa stamped (valid till 2010).
    * Company B has filed for my H1B Transfer.(Have upgraded to Premium processing)
    * Have to enter canada on/before 4th Sept to validate canadian PR (will have to go to canada only for few days).

    Q: Can I re-enter in the US from on a VISA(Valid till 2010) from company A + Approved I-797 from company B?


    Your help will be appreciated!

    Thanks
    Neil



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  • JunRN
    05-29 11:30 AM
    1] To date there are 60K EB2I and another 60K EB3I I-485 applictaions pending.
    2] 3.2K visas were available for EB2I for FY2009.

    Assuming 3.2K visas are available every year from now on, it will take 60/3.2=18.75 years for all EB2I applicants upto today to be granted GC.

    Unbelievable!

    I think you have not yet included those doing Consular Processing in your computation. CP accounts for about 20% of total usage.





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  • mchundi
    01-23 06:04 PM
    I personally know a guy who used Nick's services. Bottomline, his 485 was rejected as Nick sold the same labor to other guys as well. As for him, spend some time on EAD and now he is back on H1. What happens to his VISA number. Returns to the pool? Which pool? Or is it lost as the VISA number was used from last year's quota.





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  • sidbee
    06-02 03:59 PM
    Its possible we will not win such a lawsuit....I am not a lawyer, and often things which seem discriminatory to the common man, cannot be proved so in the court of law.
    Yet, such a lawsuit could get some publicity and at least highlight the baltantly unfair laws against certain groups people based on country of birth in the EB category.

    It very well depends on the lawyer .

    If he could prove country quota as unconstitutional, which i feel it is.

    But yes IV should talk to a good constitutional lawyer(not immigration), and find the odds,

    And as you said, even if we do not win , we would for sure get some media coverage.





    PlainSpeak
    01-13 01:40 PM
    Let me see if I understand PlainSpeak's language:
    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill, knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3 (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)

    3. An exercise to gain trust by misleading!:D

    I wonder why IV core did not come up with this brilliant idea ;)
    Mr willigetgc to start off with here are a few facts

    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill
    IV Core need not put a lot of resources to lobby for DV bill if they feel it is not worth the time and effort. that is for IV Core to decide and the decision is theirs to make after all they know about advocacy and lobbying

    1. knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!
    That is my personal opinion and also the opinion of a whole bunch of people on this forum who do not agree with me but do agrree to teh fact that it has been 4 years since any immigration friendly bill came to be debated in congress. What wil make DV bill any different. This wil also go the same way. I would be surpirsed if it even comes up for debate

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3

    My friend willigetgc what do EB3 people have besides hope. If you look at the statistics i will get GC in 19 year sand you with a priority date of May 07 (20 - 25 years). No reason not to hope for something and if IV really believes in what i suggested (I am sure it will go through all possible refinements) that would be a signal of not just hope but also action on part of IV to do something about EB Retrogressed folks. Now i am not saying it will happen and i am also not saying it will. All i am saying is here is a chnace to do something different which is also right because iot is not part of teh IV charter that IV is working to get relief for retrogressed EB

    (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)
    And what a great thing it is that you being an EB3 with a priority date of 2007 are working with EB2 hand in hand to get something done. It is great that you have trust with IV. Without trust nothing works. What i say is i have trust in IV i do not have trust that what they advocate is good for EB3. Semantics you may say but please read the lines carefully my friend. I hope you will understand





    alisa
    02-15 02:13 AM
    How would letting "people" know that there is a problem help? The only people that matter are politicians.

    I dont' mean people in general. I mean people like you and I.
    Average Joe is probably not googling 'retrogression' as he enjoys his baby back ribs.
    People like you and I are.

    It would increase membership. Which would increase funding. Which would enable us to lobby more. Which will have a greater chance of success.

    From Einstein's famous equation:

    membership+funding+lobbying+patience = chance of success
    Anything else = Absolute failure.



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