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  • JazzByTheBay
    12-13 05:53 PM
    The Visa Lottery (which afaik has been discontinued... )???

    jazz

    This problem has arisen out of a desire for the labor but not wishing to give the immigration benefits due to concerns which are not always convenient or comfortable to state.
    If H1b was also a quota system, this would all be a moot discussion. Since it is not, and we have an unlimited L1 program we have this situation.
    A few points are truly ridiculous. Anguilla with its 5K citizens has the same quota as India or China? How does that promote diversity. If every Anguillan applied in EB their quota would not get filled. Yet India has more diversity of religion, language, caste and virtually anything else you can imagine except perhaps ethnicity, arguably it has more diversity than Europe.
    The worst insult in my view is EB immigration being quota based in a so called meritocracy. Either you are a meritocracy or you are not. If you want to promote diversity, then you can do so in FB or diversity category or something like that. If you really want to promote diversity then, you can argue this country already has enough people of northern European, German, Irish, Italian ancestry etc.
    Which brings me to the main point, which is that it may be inconvenient, and it may be uncomfortable to say, but immigration(of all types) has, does and perhaps for the foreseeable future will have racial undertones.
    A constitutional challenge will invariably run into the issue of aliens not having the same rights as citizens since no other argument can realistically hold any sway.





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  • ita
    03-30 05:14 PM
    Govt is never one man effort/show.It is a team effort. Just like software projects are.For sure it will not be one man show with BJP.We have NDA's rule for example.While we are that NDA had allies in it too.

    Those used to congress style of rule mistakenly think it is one man show.

    So you want to think it will be LK alone that will be delivering the output and not his team.Ok that's fine. I and others tried to show you what/when MMS brought reforms .But still you are saying
    Yes...only that puupet brought those changes and reforms.

    Now going by your track record how do I assume you will accept LK even if I showed his track record.I have shared so much so far ,it may not be a big issue for me to share things that I know about Team Advani and Advani himself. But how do I make sure I'm not going back to where I was few posts earlier with you ? :)


    I dont have any issues for Mr. Advani, but please show me some track record as he was part of the ruling party for five years.





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  • GCwaitforever
    06-21 04:11 PM
    The problem lies with entire GC process being Employer-centric. Employee is just a pawn in the game. Employers can do whatever they want. The market test for LCA conducted by DOL itself is so ridiculous. How would a test conducted in 2002 be any relevant for a Greencard application that would be approved six or eight years from that date?





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  • eb3_nepa
    10-24 10:00 AM
    Lets say you have a company. You apply for some-one's labor. The labor is approved. Then the guy leaves. So you have one approved labor. You can then ask me to give you a "gift" of lets say $30,000 and in due course you will employ me in that position. Technically this is illegal, just like it is to take campaign contributions to vote in a certain way...But in practice it is hard to establish quid pro quo in these cases. More so when the person is willingly paying the money and is not willing to turn on the seller. So people who say you can buy LCs legally are WRONG.

    Ok got it thanks Amoljak

    So then that is the only way one can SELL you an approved LC?



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  • gcretroiv
    10-23 01:00 PM
    I guess nobody answer this even they know. Probably everybody is angry on Labor substitution





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  • snathan
    01-14 10:59 AM
    I understand. But it's true. I have many friends and these body shoppers don't pay for their medical insurance and all of my friends have a tough time - even Kforce etc doesn't pay if you're a contractor directly hired by them. Infosys, TCS pays and provides all kinds of benefits for people on H1, I don't know what ppl are against companies that have good business practice.

    Deloitte, Accenture, IBM brings ppl from other countries on L1 - why balme Infosys, TCS.

    Check what they are paying. I know a company which charges $110-$130 ph to the client and payes around $30K for the employee in L1. Is it good business practice...? Not only desi consulting cos...these a$$ also the reason we are in this mess today. Just imagine when the antis comes to know that 30K pa salary....



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  • kanakabyraju
    09-04 08:13 PM
    We are called dogs, because we discuss things, then what are we called if we don't and accept things in India as they are.

    :)





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  • jsb
    06-03 04:24 PM
    All that is too complicated and it shows nothing except that USCIS is incompetent.

    But if we can prove that Country Quotas are discrimination and unconstitutional, that would be better and simpler. Supposedly the constitution says something like - "establish a uniform rule of naturalization" - and what is happening now is by no stretch of the imagination "uniform" and it definitely is discrimination and it goes against equal opportunity - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Opportunity_Employment - which includes equal opportunity based on national origin.

    Laws you quoted are for US residents, not for those wanting to be US residents. Country quota, I believe, is more sensitive and difficult to change. Of course, it is not working for the original intent to not have people from a few countries making US as their home.

    Work-arounds, we are so familiar with such as AOS, EAD, H1B beyond 6 yrs, etc., are easier to get in. For the current situation, simple work-around could be to adjudicate a case when all is good except the visa number, and send an interim GC card until visa number is available. When visa number is available, interim card could be replaced with a permanent card. In a nutshell, replace EAD/AP with an interim permanent resident card, and replace it with a permanent card when visa number is available.



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  • chintu25
    02-13 10:21 AM
    Agreed this is discrimination, what stops us from fighting this discrimination using legal class action lawsuit? Is it the money required or did a lawsuit fail earlier that inhibits us to file class action lawsuit?


    I agree with some senior members when they say that no one individual will come forward for the lawsuit . And I ask why should they ??

    And I think, even if one single or 2-3 people do come forward it will not be possible.

    This is the reason we have forums like our IV so that all can come together and take a decisive step together
    .

    Who can stop IV to file a lawsuit USCIS ? NO ONE

    Many members went on blabbering about how long the process is and how expensive it is ... REMINDER if we can come together and collect upwards of 35k FOR "Lobbying Efforts" we can definitely collect funds for a lawsuit.

    Some one here rightly said ...If we are retrogessed and there is a queue ..Is it because of you or me ?? NO it is due to the inefficiency of the USCIS.


    NO ROAD IS EASY IN THIS BATTLE..... AND ALL OPTIONS SHOULD BE EXPLORED

    Again , I want to reiterate , I think if IV core takes lead...hires a good attorney ....we will have funds for it....we have proved it in the past that IVians can contribute





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  • Rb_newsletter
    01-21 06:15 PM
    I got the below email from multiple friends. I don't know what is the source, who wrote this analysis because there is no links. I did NOT mean to spread the fear. Just sharing the contents unaltered.

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    However, this is how many could read RECENT (Jan 8, 2010) actions / announcement by USCIS towards Consulting companies, which engages or merely places their employees at the client sites for various projects.

    � No new H1B application will be approved, as per the new guidelines provided USCIS on Jan 08, 2010 memorandum � for 3rd Party Consulting company.
    � No new H1B extension/stamping will be approved, as per the new guidelines provided USCIS on Jan 08, 2010 memorandum � for 3rd Party Consulting company.
    � If an employee has H1B approved or extension approved, and if he/she comes back to US from a vacation or from an emergency, he/she would be deported back to his/her home country from the Port of Entry (PoE) � for 3rd Party Consulting company.


    Why?

    Because of 2 recent events:

    1) USCIS gave new memorandum (which is now guidelines for USCIS professionals working on the H1B petitions/extensions) on Jan 08th, 2010. (Attached the PDF file for the memorandum).
    2) Recently (Jan 2010) several H1B Employees were sent back (in some forum, its mentioned � all of them) to their home country from Newark, NJ and JFK, NY Port of Entry � these were the H1B employees, who went to spend Christmas/New Year vacation to their home countries.


    What does the memorandum mention, specifically, about 3rd Party Consulting companies?

    Link to the memorandum (PDF attached) � http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/2010/H1B%20Employer-Employee%20Memo010810.pdf


    Employer-Employee Relationship:

    As per the memorandum, some previous H1B Law defines, the definition of an �US Employer�. Somewhere in that definition (Page 2 of memo), it mentions the word �Employer-Employee relationship�. Till now, it seems that there was no clear guidance on what kind of relationship was considered having Employer-Employee relationship. So, it was being, probably, interpreted independently or ambiguously. Now, on Jan 8th, 2010, USCIS has published this memorandum for TRAINING USCIS OFFICIALS about understanding, Employer-Employee relationship. The memorandum seems to have been prepared with a clear understanding about it, along with the specific EXAMPLES.



    Memorandum has given few specific examples, which would QUALIFY for having Employer-Employee relationship, on Page 4-5 of the Memo � including the nature of the job/business. On Page 5-6, memorandum gives few specific examples, which would NOT QUALIFY for having Employer-Employee relationship. Third Party Placement / �Job-Shop� (better version of �Body-shop�, probably) is NOT QUALIFIED for meeting Employer-Employee Relationships � meaning, 3rd Party placement (which most of the small consulting companies do) doesn�t meet H1B requirement, as defined by the law � meaning for this job, the new H1B or Extension or Stamping petitions CANNOT be approved!! Period !!




    This is how memorandum has identified 3rd Party Placements and in Bold letters, why it disqualifies for the H1B petitions (comments are in Red):



    �The petitioner is a computer consulting company (which is what all small consulting do). The petitioner has contract with numerous outside companies in which it supplies these companies with employee to fulfill specific staffing needs. The specific positions are not outlined in the contract between the petitioner and the third-party company but are staffed on an as-needed basis (this is nothing but, Service Agreement between the petitioner and the mid-vendor!). The beneficiary is a computer analyst (which is what many small consulting company�s employee are). The beneficiary has been assigned to work for the third-party company to fill a core position to maintain the third-party company�s payroll (this nothing but, Mid-Vendor�s or so-called Prime-Vendor�s or Consulting Partner�s Revenue). Once placed at the client company, the beneficiary reports to a manager who works for the third-party company (as it happens, when Consulting partner hires employee as a contractor). The beneficiary does not report to the petitioner for work assignments, and all work assignments are determined by the third-party company (petitioner just runs pay-rolls!). The petitioner does not control how the beneficiary will complete daily tasks, and no propriety information of the petitioner is used by the beneficiary to complete any work assignments (petitioner just runs pay-rolls!). The beneficiary�s end-product, the payroll (payroll of mid-vendor/prime vendor/consulting partner), is not in any way related to the petitioner�s line of business, which is computer consulting. The beneficiary�s progress reviews are completed by the client company, not the petitioner (petitioner just runs pay-rolls!). [Petitioner Has No Right to Control; No Exercise of Control].�



    Right to Control:

    Supreme Court has stated the definition of Employer-Employee Relationship (Page 3 of Memo), and there it was mentioned to have �Right to Control� over the work of the employee by the employer. From the entire memo, it sounds that Right control is well-established, ONLY WHEN, at least one supervisor from the petitioner�s company works with the beneficiary at the end-client site, and supervises beneficiary�s day-to-day work. So, big Consulting companies such as Wipro, Infosys, Accenture, Deloitte etc. will be good, as they would meet �Right to Control� and that way, they will satisfy H1B requirement by law, and their petitions for similar 3rd party consulting work, will be APPROVED, but not in case of, small consulting companies!! This is because, big consulting companies such as Accenture � have their entire or partial team � along with managers etc. � working at the same client site, where the beneficiary would be working, so they could supervise their work and so exercise control over their work etc., but that cannot be the case with the small consulting � because, their actual business has been, so far, to place employees and run pay-roll � not to get the client projects!




    Why one could think that there are slim chances for this memorandum to get reversed in favor of small consulting companies?

    This memorandum took care of big consulting companies such as Wipro, Infosys, Cognizant, Accenture etc. � meaning, these companies and their employees are NOT impacted. They can travel freely to-and-fro their home country etc. Since, big companies are not impacted, there will not be any big lobbying or oppositions to this memorandum, per say!! There don�t seem to be a platform for small consulting companies to gather and lobby, plus most the small consulting may not get involved, with fear of exposing themselves more to other issues!! So, it might be east to assume that this memorandum is permanent and not temporary. The recent deportation also indicates that the changes like this memorandum is for serious, not just the warning!



    How this memorandum relates to the recent deportation events from NY and NJ airports?



    There seems to be an anticipated link between these 2 events � Memorandum and recent Deportations � kind of an indication about the current level of government scrutiny and seriousness of the H1B program. Hence, there have been advices by others that � each employer and employee should operate by strictly following the H1B program requirements.



    Link to Murthy.com front page posting about this � MurthyDotCom : NewsFlash! Note to H1Bs Traveling to U.S., Working for Consulting Companies (http://www.murthy.com/nflash/nf_h1conc.html)



    What one could predict as happening sooner (trend)?

    � Since, it seems big consulting companies (having their own consulting projects)/full-time end-clients and their beneficiaries are not impacted with these changes � there could be trend � employee moving from small companies to big companies for a better shelter for full-time positions � especially, when small consulting company�s immediate preventions / actions to this memo cannot ensure safety.
    � Big consulting companies could buy small consulting companies or small consulting companies could sell their companies to big consulting companies (having their own consulting projects), to save their employee�s future/transition etc.


    Good Luck my Friends....!!



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  • bitu72
    10-03 06:20 PM
    1. You said Original Transcripts( i think you meant notarized copies of my transcripts)

    2. How did you guys get experience letter from current employer, probably by saying we are getting visa for our parent to come here... any other ideas???

    3. There are certain requirement for pictures to be taken, is it possible to get from walgreens or walmart.
    THERE IS ALSO A REQUEST FOR IDENTITY CARD AE THEY ASKING FOR SSN NUMBER IN THERE OR SOMETHING ELSE





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  • walking_dude
    02-13 11:33 AM
    Amit, noble thoughts. But that's not how majority of IV members think. We have members who think $50 contribution per month is too much. There is considerable opposition to making IV a paid forum (with even nominal fees of $10 or $20).

    Do you think we can get 500 members ready to contribute $500 here? Create a poll on this and see, you'll be lucky if you get 20! Like Jefferson said "those who prefer convenience over freedom and liberty, deserve neither". We are bound to suffer since we aren't ready to act.


    I think every body who wants to have a class action law suit should commit for $500 towards the expense. Only when we have commitment for $500 with person name and contact info, then we should move forward with the idea of Class action law suit. We need 500 people to commit for this otherwise there is no point in moving forward in this direction.

    There might be some people who will be willing to pay money but not listed as participant, and visa-versa and we should have at least 500 people who are willing to pay.



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  • immigrant2007
    08-19 02:44 AM
    Wrong guess, what all can i say?





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  • breddy2000
    09-03 11:40 PM
    dealsnet,

    You picking on CHANDUV23 is unwarranted. You lack debating skills. Do you have a argument to make against "unprecedented political killings, govt and personal land grabbing, corruption, and opportunistic politics of YSR" ?

    Wow supporting to your own alias comments... And on top of it creating multiple IDs to increase your reputation.

    Is this not how you break the system????....This is called Corruption my friend....

    I can't help myself Laugh the hell out your stupid behavior ....LOL



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  • yogi13229
    07-08 03:10 PM
    I have filled my Green card in Eb3 category. I am planning to now file it in Eb2 Category, but want to retain my Eb3 Priority date (which is 2005) . Please let me know:

    1) How does it affect my current Green card process in case of Rejection of New ( Eb2) or Query on it( RFE).

    2) If a different employer files my green card in EB2 category, at what stage will I have to join this new employer. I am planning to let my new (future) employer file GC in Eb2 while I continue working for my old employee. I will then join the new employer after getting the green card. Is this possible? I want this EB2 case to have the same priority date as EB3.

    3) I Have Already filled 485 in Eb3 category , Do I have to file I485 in Eb2 Again or my Previous Eb3 485 Transfered to this New Eb2 Category

    4) If I have to file New I485 in Eb2 in that case what happened to My Eb3 485

    Thanks
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  • thomachan72
    09-24 04:17 PM
    EB-I will be in mid or late 2006 by Sep 2009.

    You meant Sep 2010, right? we are already about to cross into October 2009



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  • jonty_11
    11-02 10:11 AM
    In 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and, again, in 2000, Canada was ranked No.1 by the United Nations Human Development Index as the best country in the world to live. Unlike the United States and other countries, there is no quota based on either nationality or occupation. The Canadian Government's new immigration plan for the next five years and beyond is to emphasize the admission of a greater number of skilled immigrants with abilities to contribute directly to Canada's economic and social development.
    The rights of Canadian Permanent Residents are almost the same as those of the Canadian citizens except a few, such as right to vote.

    1. After becoming a Permanent Resident you will have the freedom to live and work anywhere in Canada.

    2. You will also have the freedom to work in/with any profession/employer of your choice.

    3. You may purchase/sell any property, own and operate any business anywhere in Canada.

    4. A Permanent Resident becomes eligible for Canadian citizenship after living in Canada for a period of three years of the last four years prior to the date of the application for citizenship.

    5. The best of all, you and your family can enjoy the benefits of free Canadian Healthcare, free primary and secondary education and subsidized post secondary education, security of unemployment insurance, old age pension, child allowance etc.

    Benefits for H1B, F1 or L1 holders:

    1. Unlike US work visa for a specific employer/profession a Canadian immigrant is free to work anywhere with any employer or in any profession in Canada.

    2. Unlike applying for GC in US, you need not to be present in Canada or working in Canada in order to apply for permanent immigration for Canada.

    3. It might take you years to get a Green Card in US, whereas you along with your spouse & dependent children can get Canadian immigration within a period of 12 to 16 months.

    4. May opt to stay outside Canada for a period of 3 years in any given period of 5 years and still maintain his/her permanent residence status.

    ***The pass marks for federal immigration under the skilled worker category was lowered to 67 from 75 points. This is the best time to apply for immigration to Canada as this points criteria might change again any time which may render you ineligible for this opportunity.


    Many fallacies in your list.

    You are comparing Canadian PR with H1B. If you have US GC, you can do everything that you can do in Canada on PR.

    You do not have to be in US to file Family based or EB GC/ EB GC is for future employment ideally, and you have tojoinonly after your I-485 is approved.

    Oh just realized ....here is another shameless advertisement..PLEASE REMOVE THIS..

    BTW folks Canada immigration process is self DOABLE..and you do not need immi lawyers like ROOT **** law grp to do that for you





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  • akred
    06-12 12:04 PM
    Now to prove my point that we had all of today's similar issues then. Here is my after GC post.

    http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=84252

    I hope you people wouldn't simply jump to a conclusion that I was lucky. I went through all the travails of layoffs, GC backlogs etc.

    Peace !!

    You benefited from ISN (IV predecessor)'s efforts to get AC21 passed with a visa recapture. That visa recapture lifted the retrogression that had set in by 2000. Without that recapture (worth 100K+ visas) it is doubtful your PD would be current today.





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  • tikka
    07-04 12:18 PM
    http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer/who

    http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin

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    immi_enthu
    07-17 12:50 PM
    there are still atleast 20K visas left this year and atleast 85-90% of those will go to EB2 India. this should clear up a significant majority of the EB2 pending prior to 06/2006. As I mentioned before the numbers will be unavailable towards the end of September as all the visas are used up, but by this time most of the EB2 hat are current now will get their visas. the dates may go back slightly in October- probably to mid 2004 like you said, but it will not stay there for long. with all the Spill over, the dates will start moving rapidly in Nov/dec of this year itself and EB2 India will be current by this time next year. I agree wth your assertion that legislative fix is needed to increase the EB numbers and resolve the backlogs

    how did you come up with the 20K number ?





    qualified_trash
    10-24 10:24 AM
    Ok got it thanks Amoljak

    So then that is the only way one can SELL you an approved LC?
    there are also genuine cases where a big company will use the labor approved to try and retain another employ. say they file for LC for employee A. it gets approved but A decides to quit. they can then reuse it for an existing employee who is important to them and employee B then essentially gets to the I140 stage.



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