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  • sanju
    02-15 11:29 AM
    This country is against slavery of mankind in any form ( atleast that is what they preach to the rest of the world).

    Your above statement is true, but it doesn't apply to EB situation. A slave is not allowed to leave, you are allowed to leave time, at your free will. Its just that you chose not to leave. The correct description of the situation is - you are imposing slavery upon yourself and asking for remedy from the government. Isn't that correct? Jazzy is simply saying that you can leave if you don't like it. So you are not a slave. Its that simple.

    Knowingly or unknowingly they have setup laws which virtually make us slaves.

    Laws are pretty clear, its just that we are stuck in the process created by those laws and we want to call it "slavery".

    This debate will have a conclusive output if we think from our mind instead from our heart. No point in getting emotional about the situation, this debate needs pragmatic thinking and discussion about the possible lawsuit.

    Slavery is not a valid argument so no point in mentioning it. Also, whether of not we have a cause depends on the law and not on the logic or the emotional aspect of the debate.





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  • pappu
    04-01 12:45 PM
    Calm down everyone.

    The thread was posted in a seperate area we have created for such posts. As Marphad said, you cannot discuss immigration all day. IV is a platform for everyone in the community to be together. If you just talk about immigration, we may not get the number of people we need for action items. When we start action items to make calls, send faxes etc, we want people sending it in thousands and not hundreds. It hurt us last year when we had such action items and participation was thin. If we make the forums strictly to discuss immigration it will hurt us in time of need when we will desperately need massive participation. This is part of a plan in moving forward for IV and we are building a platform for immigrants to come and stay here and consider it as their home. This work is still under process and you will see its fruits when we have a big bill like CIR. There is a possibility of CIR after August and we need to be ready for it. We are hearing health care reform coming before CIR at this time. There is pressure from CHC and it will be tough to ignore.

    So do not get emotional and start fighting. It is tme to be united and increase the membership of our community. We will need to burn the phone lines and jam the fax machines with our participation when the time comes.

    I have deleted my post on this thread. As an administrator I represent IV and I will keep in mind not to air my personal views on politics as they can be misinterpreted as IV's views.

    Thanks.





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  • u.misc
    01-25 02:46 PM
    From the day I came to this country , I have spent around $12,000 on immigration including H1-Bs, filing GC, APs, EADs extra. Not to mention the traveling for visa stamps and whole other shit load of expenses. I guess most of people who paid for filing GC did spent same amount of money.

    Hell ya, Some one got to be benefiting from my $12000.

    AILA should. I heard a lots of para legal staffs are already lost their jobs. Because there were less H1, and GC filings. Actually there is a huge economy based on immigration. If USCIS just changes the rules as they want that would affect lots of US citizens not just few immigrants.

    Lets see which businesses/people are making money out of immigration related activities.
    1) Attorney
    2) Paralegal staff
    3) Shipping guys (usps, fedex, etc)
    4) Airlines (because immigrant workers has to visit their home country periodically)
    5) Consulate
    6) USCIS
    7) Contractors in USCIS
    8) Port of Entry/customs staffs
    9) Notaries
    10) Doctors/hospitals for getting medical clearance for 485, etc
    11) Passport photo shops
    12) Airport staffs
    13) ....





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  • gapala
    02-13 11:11 AM
    Lets see how a common member look at so called "GC Dream" and try to understand why there is no unity.
    Is it what is called "Inspiration" which is missing? I guess so. Can we call it "Motivation"?
    What else can we call that "thing" which stops us from uniting for a cause? "So far I am just "Encouraged" thats all, not inspired". Is this what it is? I do believe there is a huge difference in these 2 words.

    Everyone in this community are Brave and Courageous.

    Note: Do not jump on me asking What am I doing on all this. :) I think we just have to realize this to get a bigger perspective.

    Well -

    AMAN KAPOOR, JAY PRADHAN, HIMANSHU and everyone who are on the forefront are JUST ORDINARY COMMON PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE HERE. the idea behind IV is to provide a support network. If people want to see success - they HAVE to be a part of it. The efforts of such organizations is not to make profits and then sell shares and perform well and then make people join it, it is to provide with a platform where people can help themselves.

    This is truely heroic

    Our primary issue is in our thought process. We want to do everything, we want everything in the world BUT we do not want to stand up and rise in unity. Not necessarly true in everyone's case. several people do not care about green card. Their approach is to stay here as long as they can (or They are allowed so to say) and if the situation gets violent or unbearable. They plan to choose the best option to move back to home country and take advantage of what ever is the exchange rate.

    We want to blame IV leaders saying they are rude and pushy. We come up with discussion threads saying we must do this we must do that and finally we see these discussions just getting buried. Again Not everyone does that

    Good examples of how communities thrive anywhere in the world are the Jewish community and the Patel community. The only reason they have succeeded is because they believe in themselves and their cause - they are all over the world and are united, they have managed to make their lives easier by uniting for their causes. There is no question that unity is the key but not easy as the individual goals are different. Unity is not constant..people unite based on the issue and its effect on them. Once the issue for which they united is resolved or becomes one of less importance" they will choose to stay away. There are several examples in the history even revolutions and freedom strugles. Unity pervails until the comfort zone then it takes its direction.

    Look at us - if green card is delayed - we say - I dont care about it, India is rising - but are we going there? No way - no one who says "India is rising" will go - in fat they will be the first to apply for any immigration benefit. Again this does not apply to everyone. Some may apply for immi benefit but nothing wrong in that and they take that concious decision on the situation that odds of getting GC in this life is near 0.

    Why are we individually so highly skilled and intelligent and capable but collectively so naive? As important this issue is for you, is not as important to atlease some of the members in the community. But still they will do what ever they can for the community with out any "inconveniene". That does not make then in admisible in this community. Does it? If yes, then thats the number 1 block to cross towards unity

    Why do we always want others to do it for us? is it because if there is any opposition the active ones will be affected and we can escape? is it cowardice that stops us from being united? Not necessarly. No one wants others to do anything for them. (Not the people who start new thread with action items for others and pop under the hood). I believe majority of the people are brave enough to take courageous actions when issues are important for them.

    I do admire the leaders in this community. We feel its cowardice because the importance with which the people who take lead on the issue expects others to take the issue at same level of importance. In order to be able to unite people on issues we will have to atleast "Convince" them that this is as important for them. I would suggest a poll to see how many are very serious about GC? Must to have, Nice to have, do not care. I am sure majority will be later 2 categories.

    What is success? How can we achieve success? The word success is "relative". Success for one may not be a success for other."
    Why are we finding excuses for not doing our part? "The reality is people do not think this is as important as going to work tomorrow".
    Why do we always want to praise others but not do something? "No Inspiration". Inspire them and see they will turn the mountian around.



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  • unitednations
    02-13 03:03 PM
    I am not saying 7% is not applicable for recaptured numbers. EB3-ROW was current while EB3-IN,Ch retrogressed in 2005.

    Again 7% is not a quota or minimum or maximum. It is a guiding tool to avoid monopoly (not to prevent) for fist two months in a quarter and gave the remaining number to third month. It is not meant for reservation.

    As you said Bangaldeshies can not raise flag they as have not consumed 7% quota. Therefore one can not argue that Bangladesh-EB3 should be "current".

    At the end, first-come first served should prevails.


    The 7% is a maximum.

    They do not have to go to 7% if they don't want to. However; they can't go over it; if there is more demand then supply.





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  • jelo
    05-11 06:34 PM
    I completely agree with you.

    Few of the most trusted allies for India in the region are Tamils from Sri Lanka and Baluch people from Pakistan but this present UPA govt ditched both of them.

    As a Tamil, I too carry the Indian passport with shame and can't wait to see the day when I become a US citizen.
    US citizenship looks too far for you, sail to your beloved place and make sure you throw your passport on your way.



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  • ocpmachine
    09-17 11:21 AM
    When it took about 2 years spill over visas (2008 and 2009) for the EB2 India dates to move from April 2004 to Jan 2005, I am sure you could estimate how long it would take to cross a year.

    This is not entirely true, the spillovers in 2008 was given to PD's till mid 2006 and cases with FBI namecheck pending(PD's 2003/4/5) were not approved, so 2008 spillovers did not go fully to 2003/4/5 PD cases. However, in 2009 the spill overs go entirely to 2004 cases as FBI cleared name checks and due to pre-adjudication.

    So my take is it took part of 2008 spillovers + entire 2009 spillover numbers just to clear 2004 backlog, unless we have pre-perm Jan-Mar05 numbers we really cant logically predict the EB2 movement.

    Edit: oops, i see sachug22 already posted a similar reply, sorry for the duplicate post.





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  • thomachan72
    09-04 10:59 AM
    This is not contributing to anything. I dont think oposing parties in this discussion will ever come to an agreement so what is the purpose of carrying on. Please close this and lets concentrate on something else.



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  • whoever
    04-28 12:48 PM
    so no more labor substitution han? that sounds so sweet to me. we should expect pd movement for eb3 now and maybe for eb2 too now. and this is the best news i have heard in such a long time.





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  • eagerr2i
    08-30 01:43 PM
    You are right on the mark. Need to be physically present 2 years of the next 5 years for your immigration status to be alive in Canada,



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  • snathan
    03-30 02:55 PM
    If congress would have done it's job properly 60 years back, there was no need of nuclear deal now. The comment you made makes it pretty sure that congress was a failure since last 6 decades. The benefits of current nuclear deal will be in next 2 decades. So what poor people of India eat in next two decades? Will you tell them that don't worry...hang on for next 20 years. Also do you know the case of Enron and how politicians of all colors made fool of people.

    Again...I am not supporting congress. Yes, we didnt have anything for the last 60 years. Because of MMS we are going to see something in another 20 years. Is there anything you can give me Mr.Advani's vision about it. Even after fifty years.

    Whether we like it or not....nothing is going to change for the common man. Advani, Jaya, Karuna, Maya and mulayam all are same shit but different a$$ h&^e.

    I am supporting MMS because he is not a politician. Chose the less evil. nothing else.





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  • vivid_bharti
    09-04 11:20 AM
    If you and other who have problems with this thread, don't like this discussion than why do you guys bother to come on this thread, just ignore it....This is not contributing to anything. I dont think oposing parties in this discussion will ever come to an agreement so what is the purpose of carrying on. Please close this and lets concentrate on something else.



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  • illusions
    05-18 02:09 PM
    Well,

    Panini's profile is "WRONG" on this thread too: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=237356&postcount=1

    More, It is wrong to put fake data. All I suggested is that it has some impact on his credibility and his reaction was very strong. I agree with his post contents and second them too! Not comfortable with someone roaming around with fake profile - keep in mind profile is the same whether it is immigration or non-immigration related thread.

    You tell me the reason you think why Panini put wrong profile data. OK, you don't know, then tell me why you put correct profile information? You will get your answer.

    Marphad, i didn't say that it's wrong or right, you implied he is anti immigrant, spreading rumors and writing un-necessary posts, i just failed to see how you concluded all that just by looking at his profile ? And point taken after you replied.

    And isn't the content in his profile all default content (correct me if i'm wrong) when the tracker was introduced, even i had a changeability as US. And i'm not trying to defend him, but you seem to assume it's fake. And the way i see it, it is incomplete.

    If one has a fake profile do you really think he will make it so obvious ? it would resemble more accurate data than the most obvious.

    And i do know the profile carries on to a on-related immi thread, no doubts there, except it only makes sense looking and analyzing it when related to an immi issue, unless you are looking for something else.





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  • angelfire76
    05-29 09:24 PM
    still ppl feel pulling others lag would get them GC - this commnity can never be united!:confused:

    You are not getting the point. We are not pulling others down, they are pushing us down.
    It's not a subtle difference.



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  • chintu25
    02-14 02:08 PM
    :mad:Guys do us all a favour Vote for or against the Lawsuit in the other thread





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  • immi_seeker
    09-15 02:39 PM
    Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years

    <=2004 2000
    2005 10000
    2006 13000
    2007(july) 5000
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    Total 30000
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    This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).

    Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)

    Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
    EB2 50000
    EB3 94000
    EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714

    We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well

    2005
    EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005

    2006
    India PERM applications = 18000
    EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006

    So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.


    Considering the slow economy that spill over is reasonable.



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  • gc_on_demand
    08-04 11:49 AM
    I don't think USCIS has any idea as to how much "enough" visa they have....They function randomly...so plz dont draw any conclusions from who is getting a GC now. It could be the last person filed with latest PD while everyone else waits for their GC!

    Just wait and watch. Sept dates will throw some light as to how much of the available visas have they used. (if all, PD will be U, If most/majority: PD will stay same, if less than half: PD will move forward--may be C:p)

    What will be picture if we get some Family based unsed visa into Pool ?





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  • Dakota Newfie
    05-09 12:46 PM
    For physicians (especially specialists), opportunities abound in Canada! However, the pay may not be as good as the U.S. because of the government controlled (and each province controls its own) Medicare System. The medical system in Canada is always looking for good doctors and most often offers "incentives" for recruitment. Ontario and Alberta tend to offer the best opportunities but British Columbia has the best climate (i.e least amount of snow, warmer).





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  • samay
    07-21 08:23 PM
    Hi,
    I am on H1B (7th year and got extended for 3 yrs) and applied 485, received EAD from company A (140 approved).

    I am asked to join Client by Company A due to some benefits both of us would receive. But Client wont support H1 so I need to use EAD.

    Since EB3 is in very bad situation, Can I file new Perm, 140 and port my PD for EB2 using Company C for future position? I have position, salary and exp required for EB2. When should I join Company C if I choose this route?

    Thanks in advance!

    Whats your EB3 PD. You can join company C anytime assuming that it has been more than six months since you filed your I-485. Company C can start the EB2 process should you choose to. However bear in mind that this process will also take some time.





    srikondoji
    06-27 04:22 PM
    nope. Columbus is illegal alien. He should be deported posthumously.:eek:
    Last one was good one from arihant.
    Lets move dates back to.......hmmm....when Columbus discovered America. Guys....Was Columbus on H1-B? Then he changed his status to Green Card....Gosh....dates were current when Columbus landed.....





    dan19
    08-30 04:58 PM
    I am doing my Canadian Immigration myself.

    It is fairly a simple and straightforward process. So my advice is "Do it yourself". Immigration lawyers do normally charge more that $1000 and make mistakes.

    Since it takes around 1.5 years for the entire process to complete, send the application as soon as possible. Dont wait for gathering all the document! That will ensure that you get a early priority date. If more documents are needed, they will ask you. (Most people sent English Proficiency and Police Certificates after submitting the application, though they are required to be part of the initial application)

    I can describe the procedure:

    1. Calculate your points based on the information on Canada Immigration website. If it is more that 67, you are good.

    2. To prove English proficiency, take IELTS test. You need to register for the test as soon as possible since some centers are always full. (Some of my friends who studied in USA skipped IELTS - rather they wrote a letter stating that they are proficient in English as they studied/worked in USA)

    3. Make sure you have the required funds. It's around $13,000 for a 2 member family. (Again check the Canadian Immigration website for accurate info)

    4. Get experience letters if you are claiming experience.

    5. Get Birth Certificates and Police Certificates. If you are an Indian, the link you need to look for is http://www.indianembassy.org/newsite/misc_guide.asp

    6. Though they do ask you to send US FBI Police Certificates, do it later. (They will ask you for updated FBI Police Certificates evenif you submit it earlier)

    7. Fill the forms, attach the documents and send it!!!!


    Visit http://www.canada-city.ca/canada-immigration/ or
    http://www.immigration.ca/discussion/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=4 for further discussions.


    Our frustration with the US legal immigration and retrogression seems endless. My wife and I are considering immigration prospects to Canada. Can somebody please suggest good responsive lawfirms that could handle a Canadian PR application? We would also appreciate some insight on Canadian immigration prospects for physicians. Thanks



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